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How to post a question. Locked Topic 0 L. Dougherty Questions are easy to post.  Simply follow this URL and you can submit your question anonymously.  Questions are posted and answered on a regular basis.  If you need assistance, please email help@isawwa.org The questions form can also be found by following the menu to the left -  Committees > Backflow.
by L. Dougherty
Monday, May 12, 2014
Welcome to the ISAWWA Backflow and Cross Connection Blog 0 L. Dougherty Promoting and assisting all Illinois water systems to implement and effectively enforce IEPA Title 35 cross-connection control regulations and to increase public awareness, provide and develop educational materials and training and to provide an online method for members to ask questions and obtain a response.Disclaimer We are providing the following links to third party sites for your reference. Illinois Section AWWA (ISAWWA)  does not endorse any non-government websites, companies or applications. Comment Policy The purpose of this blog is to facilitate an ongoing dialogue on Backflow and Cross Connection issues. We encourage your comments; your ideas and concerns are important to ensure that a broad range of individuals are active and informed participants in the discussion. ISAWWA reserves the right to modify this policy at any time. This is a moderated blog. That means all comments will be reviewed before posting. In addition, we expect that participants will treat each other, as well as our association members and our employees, with respect. We will not post comments that contain abusive or vulgar language, spam, hate speech, personal attacks, or similar content. We will not post comments that are spam, are clearly "off topic" or that promote services or products or contain any links. Comments that make unsupported accusations will also not be posted. Any references to commercial entities, products, services, or organizations or individuals that remain on the site are provided solely for the information of individuals using this page. These references are not intended to reflect the opinion of ISAWWA, the Backflow Committee or its officers or employees concerning the significance, priority, or importance to be given the referenced entity, product, service, or organization. Such references are not an official or personal endorsement of any product, person, or service, and may not be quoted or reproduced for the purpose of stating or implying ISAWWA endorsement or approval of any product, person, or service. What This Blog Is Not This blog is not to be used to report criminal activity. If you have information for law enforcement, please contact your local police agency, Illinois EPA,  Dept. of Public Health or other enforcement agency.Do not submit unsolicited proposals, or other business ideas or inquiries to this blog. This site is not to be used for contracting or commercial business.This blog may not be used for the submission of any claim, demand, informal or formal complaint, or any other form of legal and/or administrative notice or process, or for the exhaustion of any legal and/or administrative remedy.ISAWWA does not guarantee or warrant that any information posted by individuals on this blog is correct, and disclaims any liability for any loss or damage resulting from reliance on any such information. ISAWWA may not be able to verify, does not warrant or guarantee, and assumes no liability for anything posted on this website by any other person.ISAWWA does not endorse, support or otherwise promote any private or commercial entity or the information, products or services contained on those websites that may be reached through links on our website. We recognize that the Web is a 24/7 medium, and your comments are welcome at any time. However, given the need to manage resources, moderating and posting of comments will occur during regular business hours Monday through Friday. Comments submitted after hours or on weekends will be read and posted as early as possible; in most cases, this means the next business day. For the benefit of robust discussion, we ask that comments remain "on-topic." This means that comments will be posted only as it relates to the topic that is being discussed within the blog post. The views expressed on the site by do not necessarily reflect the official views of the Illinois Section AWWA. To protect your own privacy and the privacy of others, please do not include personally identifiable information, such as name, Social Security number,  phone numbers or email addresses in the body of your comment. If you do voluntarily include personally identifiable information in your comment, such as your name, that comment may or may not be posted on the page. If your comment is posted, your name will not be redacted or removed. The default for the posting of comments is "anonymous”, but if you opt not to, any information, including your login name, may be displayed on our site. Thank you for taking the time to read this comment policy. We encourage your participation in our discussion and look forward to an active exchange of ideas.  Access to this blog is limited to Illinois Section AWWA members.
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
FOIA request 1 M. Evangelista Here is one example of a response that could be considered in a FOIA request.
by M. Eisenhauer
Friday, May 13, 2016
Hotel Property backflow question 1 L. Dougherty The hotel in question is apparently a non-community public water supply, assuming that you do not receive potable water from a community source. Non-Community water supplies are governed by the Illinois Department of Public Health. We encourage you to contact Elaine Beard or Eric Portz at the IDPH, 217/785-2069. IDPH has specific requirements in their rules for non-community public water supplies. These rules must be followed, along with the Illinois State Plumbing Code. Our recommendation would be to most definitely install a reduced pressure principal backflow prevention assembly at your well to prevent any unforeseen possible contamination of your drinking water, remember that in your apparent circumstance you are 100% responsible for any contamination that may occur. If your swimming pool or hot tub is filled with a submerged inlet water fill, both would require a reduced pressure principal backflow assembly. State of Illinois Plumbing Code Section 890.1130)(a) Protection of Potable Water requires:"Cross-Connection (Submergence). Potable water supply piping and water discharge outlets shall not be submerged in any sewage or toxic substance. Potable water supply piping or water discharge outlets that are submerged in other substances shall be provided with backflow protection as listed in subsection (f)." The complete Plumbing Code is available on the Illinois Department of Public Health website, www.idph.gov.
by M. Eisenhauer
Wednesday, November 25, 2015
Consumer Backflow Preventer Question 2 L. Dougherty Image - Backflow Blog
by L. Dougherty
Thursday, April 9, 2015
Backflow - RPZ 1 L. Dougherty The State of Illinois Plumbing Code does not differentiate between a private potable water system and a public potable water system. The State of Illinois plumbing Code Section 890.1140(d) indicates d) Lawn Sprinklers. Any lawn sprinkler connected to a potable water supply shall be equipped with an RPZ. The RPZ may be located outside provided that it is protected from freezing or is removed at the end of the season, and it complies with Section 890.1130(g)(1)
by M. Eisenhauer
Tuesday, April 7, 2015
Reduced Pressure Backflow Preventor? 1 L. Dougherty The placement of the backflow assembly would depend on the application of the PRV. Remember that you will lose approximately 12psi through the backflow assembly.Example 1: If the PRV is required to bring the total building pressure down to less than 80 PSI (PRV located at the water meter) there would be no problem locating the RPZ after the PRVExample 2: If the PRV is being used to reduce the existing water pressure for a specific plumbing fixture i.e. a boiler make-up and the water pressure to that plumbing fixture requires a critical PSI range you would be better served to install the RPZ on the supply side of the PRV as the PRV then will further reduce the pressure to the required pressure range.State of Illinois Plumbing code does not specify one way or the other. Sorry for the ambiguous answer but it really does matter what the PRV application is for.Mike EisenhauerISAWWA Backflow Committee
by M. Eisenhauer
Wednesday, March 11, 2015
How to get RPZ certified? 1 L. Dougherty The Illinois Resources Training Center in Edwardsville, Illinois provides all training and certification for backflow assembly testers in the State of Illinois. You can find the full training schedule at their web site.http://www.siue.edu/ertc/cross_connection_control.shtml
by M. Eisenhauer
Tuesday, July 22, 2014
RPZ device for my lawn sprinkler system 1 L. Dougherty Assuming that this is a residential lawn irrigation system you have numerous options available for a vertical installation depending on the manufacturer you choose for your backflow prevention assembly. The ASSE website asse-plumbing.org can provide you with all of your available options for an approved backflow prevention assembly. Many residential lawn irrigation systems have the backflow prevention assembly installed outside so this may be an option, an outside installation would also prevent a possible flood situation in the event the backflow assembly discharges inside your home. As with all plumbing modifications it is best to seek the advice of a State of Illinois Registered Plumbing Contractor.
by M. Eisenhauer
Wednesday, June 4, 2014
Anonomous Question - Who is responsible? 1 L. Dougherty Unless Dupage has a more stringent requirement under Illinois law the owner of a property that has testable backflow devices is responsible for the annual test requirements.
by T. Weathers
Monday, May 19, 2014
CCCDI Tester qualified to test in Illinois? 1 L. Dougherty To be a CCCDI in Illinois you must first be an Illinois licensed plumber.
by T. Weathers
Monday, May 19, 2014
What are your programs based on? 1 L. Dougherty "The cross connection control program in Illinois is implemented/coordinated by the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Illinois Department of Public Health (DPH) and the Environmental Resources Training Center (ERTC). The Illinois EPA (pursuant to 35 Ill. Adm. Code Section 607.104 and 653.801, 653.802 and 653.803) requires that all community water supplies have a cross-connection control program. For the most part, the Illinois DPH deals with the plumbing aspects of the cross-connection control program. Under 77 Ill. Adm. Code 890, backflow prevention devices are regulated. Under 225 ILCS 320, Illinois Plumbing License Law is detailed."
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
Control to the Customers Tap? 1 L. Dougherty Per IEPA Regulations, the water purveyor is responsible to the curb stop of each connection. Per Dave McMillan of the IEPA: 'To have an effective program, a community will need to recognize that their water supply is ultimately responsible for protecting their distribution system. A significant point that must be recognized is that the community water system is not responsible for what goes on within an individual service connection.' Your ordinances may be stricter and require 'isolation' and/or 'containment.'
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
Control to the Customers Tap? 0 L. Dougherty Do you control cross connections to the last outlet of the customers tap?
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
Are testing requirements required by state law? 1 L. Dougherty "Yes. Section 890.1130 of the new Illinois Plumbing Codes states that backflow prevention assemblies be tested and approved by a CCCDI before initial operation and at least annually thereafter. Also, Title 35 section 653.802.e.1 states that each device shall be tested annually or more frequently if recommended by the manufacturer."
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
RPZ Backflow Devic 1 L. Dougherty Illinois does not allow for any type of backflow preventer to be placed underground or in a pit. Even if the pit has a sump pit/pump, floor drain, etc.Section 890.1130 Protection of Potable Water g) Installation of Devices or Assemblies.5) Double Check Valve, and Reduced Pressure Principle Backflow Preventer Assemblies. No in-line double check valve backflow preventer assembly (DCV) or reduced pressure principle backflow preventer assembly (RPZ) shall be located more than 5 feet above a floor, or be installed where it is subject to freezing or flooding conditions.
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
Legal Ramifications of Not Testing Annually 1 L. Dougherty We are not sure if you are a water customer or a water purveyor, but the list below actually covers both.There could be several ramifications:1) You are not complying with State of Illinois Plumbing Code and Illinois EPA guidelines2) You may contaminate not only the water within the building, but your distribution system as well if there is a reduction or loss of pressure, such as: nearby fire, water main break, etc.3) You are creating a potential health hazard by not requiring or having the backflow preventers tested annually. Fire system water is not only stagnant, it may contain harmful chemicals (antifreeze).4) You, the water purveyor and/or water user, may be liable for a clean-up of the water distribution system, the health of all water customers who were exposed to potentially contaminated water, etc5) You can and WILL receive fines that may be imposed by several authorities, such as the Illinois Department of Public Health, The IEPA, etc
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
Single Check/Y-strainer Device 1 L. Dougherty Because you are dealing with domestic hot water, there is no requirement for backflow protection. If a backflow situation were to occur, you would only have potable domestic hot water going back into potable domestic cold water. The check valve is there simply to stop the hot water from backing up into the cold water.
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
Vacuum Breaker on Garbage Disposal? 1 L. Dougherty Yes, it is. Remember that it must be 6" above the flood level of the rim of the sink it's attached to. If the sink has a backsplash, sidesplash, etc all around it, it must be 6" above everything. The only other options for protection are an air gap or RP on the water supply.
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
How Long Do Backflow Records Need to be Kept? 0 L. Dougherty There is not a definitive answer in IEPA Title 35 or in the IDPH Plumbing Code. Federal requirements say a minimum of 13 years of records must be kept by a water purveyor. We recommend however that records be kept indefinitely with or on the backflow preventer itself as well as in the water purveyor's offices.
by L. Dougherty
Tuesday, November 5, 2013
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